Bidouilles en tous genres sur les sticks
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Pour commander des joysticks arcade et bidouiller son propre stick dans le style US, par ex:
http://www.arcadeshop.de/index.php
Vraiment cool, ça revient pas si cher. Bien sûr, il faut fabriquer le boîtier, etc...
http://www.arcadeshop.de/index.php
Vraiment cool, ça revient pas si cher. Bien sûr, il faut fabriquer le boîtier, etc...
- Chinobiffle
- I love Soul Calibur
- Messages : 1850
- Enregistré le : 28 oct. 2004 à 17h49
- PSN : chinobi_unk76
- Localisation : Le Havre
Tu m'étonnes là... Tu connais la marque du joystick? Normalement y'a que 2 marques de joysticks coréens, Crown et Fanta, et les 2 sont montables sur un saulabi. Les Fantas sont censés être les plus réputés dans les salles coréennes, et d'apres les photos j'ai exactement le même joystick Fanta vert...
Sans aucune bidouille? Même taille pour le support? Je précise bien "sans aucune bidouille", parce que oui, on peut mettre un joystick Sanwa dans un Namco, ou un Seimitsu dans un HRAP, etc...soulcaman a écrit :Normalement y'a que 2 marques de joysticks coréens, Crown et Fanta, et les 2 sont montables sur un saulabi.
Difficile à dire, sur certains joysticks, j'ai vu Crown inscrit au dessus, et si tu dis que tu vois un Fanta sur la photo, et bien, ils ont exactement la même tronche! Au moins, au niveau de la tige...soulcaman a écrit :Les Fantas sont censés être les plus réputés dans les salles coréennes, et d'apres les photos j'ai exactement le même joystick Fanta vert...
Modifié en dernier par kenj le 31 oct. 2006 à 08h37, modifié 1 fois.
- elefanc
- Master of Puppets
- Messages : 614
- Enregistré le : 07 nov. 2002 à 21h15
- Localisation : Paris 13ème
Kenj : si si c'est possible, je l'avais fait, avec un Fanta exactement comme ceux que t'as ramené, et d'ailleurs c'est ce que Soulcaman a fait aussi.
Soulca: c'était quoi déjà le diamètre des boutons que tu voulais ?
E.
Soulca: c'était quoi déjà le diamètre des boutons que tu voulais ?
E.
Noises, Drums and Grooves : http://soundcloud.com/owra
Pour les boutons, c'est un peu moins que 30mm, donc 29 ou 28...
Hey sinon, sur un autre forum, j'ai fait un topic justement sur le matos coréen, sur l'arcade en corée en fait, en me basant sur l'unique vidéo que j'ai vu d'une salle d'arcade, et il me semble bien qu'en plus c'est la "Green" qu'on y voit sur la vidéos. Sur la partie "matos" j'ai fait des copier/coller de post (d'archives de post en fait) de shoryuken, où les différences entre les sticks coréens sont bien expliqués et tout. Ca reprenait en gros ce que disait elefanc, qui a du lire les mêmes pages que moi. Donc si ca interesse des gens, je peux copier/coller ce qui y'a ecrit là bas. Par contre c'est ecrit en anglais...
Hey sinon, sur un autre forum, j'ai fait un topic justement sur le matos coréen, sur l'arcade en corée en fait, en me basant sur l'unique vidéo que j'ai vu d'une salle d'arcade, et il me semble bien qu'en plus c'est la "Green" qu'on y voit sur la vidéos. Sur la partie "matos" j'ai fait des copier/coller de post (d'archives de post en fait) de shoryuken, où les différences entre les sticks coréens sont bien expliqués et tout. Ca reprenait en gros ce que disait elefanc, qui a du lire les mêmes pages que moi. Donc si ca interesse des gens, je peux copier/coller ce qui y'a ecrit là bas. Par contre c'est ecrit en anglais...
- elefanc
- Master of Puppets
- Messages : 614
- Enregistré le : 07 nov. 2002 à 21h15
- Localisation : Paris 13ème
Soulca : C'est bien ce qu'il me semblait, j'ai encore tes boutons alors.
Pourquoi tu ne files pas le lien ? Pourquoi tu ne traduis pas ? C'est sur shoryuken ?
E.
Pourquoi tu ne files pas le lien ? Pourquoi tu ne traduis pas ? C'est sur shoryuken ?
E.
Noises, Drums and Grooves : http://soundcloud.com/owra
Ben j'espere que t'accepteras de me les ramener alors! Sinon, j'ai regroupé les post interssant d'un topic de shoryuken, mais j'ai été les trouver dans les archives en fait... Et j'ai pas traduit pasque j'ai tout compris lol! Si moi je comprends, les autres se demerdent, je suis une bouse quand même en anglais: (attention y'a beaucoup)
\STICKS \
1.Fanta Stick (MyungShin)
These make up for probably 90% of sticks used in korean arcades. These are good sticks, and since it's completely round and has no corners on rotation, it shouldn't be hard to adapt to. The recent batches of Fantas have been coming out with light blue microswitches (by Deco), instead of the usual brown/black (brown and black are exactly the same, made by LG/=Gersung). After some on spot testing, I found these Deco switches to be a horrible match for Fanta sticks, since hitting corners right was so much harder than the brown switches. I'll just grab the ones with LG microswitches.
pics (took with a used one I had laying around)
Fanta profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_profile.JPG)
Fanta bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_bottom.JPG)
Fanta bottom close-up (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/fanta_microswitch.JPG)
Fanta knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_knob.JPG)
Fanta avalable colors (red and green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_colors.JPG)
LG microswitch side 1 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG1.JPG)
LG microswitch side 2 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG2.JPG)
2.Crown square actuator
This stick was new to me, but from on-site testing, this one had light resistence and it found corners very good. I haven't played on it yet. I gotta play on it tomorrow then. I'm putting so much time into this thing...
pics
Crown square profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_profile.JPG)
Crown square bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_bottom.JPG)
Crown square knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_knob.JPG)
Deco microswitch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_Deco.JPG)
3.Crown round actuator
This one used to be pretty stiff with WONWOO microswitches in the past, but ever since they changed to Deco microswitches, they seem to be light enough. Seems to get corner inputs alright. This stick is NOT popular in the arcades though. I still got a sample for ya'll.
pics
Crown round profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_profile.JPG)
Crown round bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_bottom2.JPG)
Crown round knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_knob.JPG)
Crown round microswitch (prolly no longer in production with this microswitch) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_switch2.JPG)
Here's a size comparison of different sticks
click (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/sticks_size_comp.JPG)
If you want a shaft with a color other than red or green, it probably won't happen. Although I could try to find some real old cabinet with sticks that have orange/black shaft in them and try to swap the shaft with the new one IF they match, you'll have to convince me pretty good to go into that trouble. ;)
pics of some old ass cabs
Cab1 - orange (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/orange.JPG)
Cab2 - black (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/black.JPG)
\BUTTONS\
1.Crown Snap-on
I like these buttons a lot. These snap onto the Crown cabinets, and the the panel it mounts to has to be 11mm, and the hole is 28mm in diameter. Flat top. The pictures explain it all.
pics
Crown snap-on buttons (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap.JPG)
Crown snap-on bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_bottom.JPG)
Crown snap-on profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_profile.JPG)
Crown snap-on switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_switch.JPG)
Crown snap-on colors (RED/BLUE/YELLOW) I've seen 1 black one my whole life (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_colors.JPG)
2.Crown Snap-on/Screw-on
These can be snap-ons as well as screw-ons. The button quality is just as good as the snap on. I think it snaps to 2 different thicknesses, if you look closely at the profile view. This would work for mounting directly on the plexi as well as any wood. Flat top.
pics
Crown screw-/snap profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_profile.JPG)
Crown screw/snap colors (RED/YELLOW/GREEN) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_colors.JPG)
Crown screw/snap bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_bottom.JPG)
3.Crown Illuminating Buttons
These buttons are just for kicks. It uses a Deco microswitch for the input and 12v for the bulb. Flat top. These light up when you press them. Look
pics
Crown illumin button bottom (hollow) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bottom.JPG)
Crown illumin bulb+switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bulbswitch.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled /w nut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb1.JPG)
avaliable colors (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_colors.JPG)
3.Small Screw-On Buttons
These are tipical start-button-size buttons using switches. 24mm for the hole, I think. Convex top
pics
Small button colors (YELLOW/BLUE/ nasty green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_buttons.JPG)
Small button bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_button_bottom.JPG)
\OTHER INFO\
Here are some extra pics for miscelaneous info.
Crown 203 Cabinet panel top (this is my latest stick project) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_top.JPG)
Crown 203 custom stick bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_bottom.JPG)
You need a black panel like this to make it (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic.JPG)
It's got a comfortable angle (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_angle.JPG)
This is where those Crown-specific snap-ons go (bottom view) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_buttonhole.JPG)
The cradle for the stick (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_stickhole.JPG)
Put a sticker, like this one, on top (I wish they had the Tekken5 sticker, that'd be dope as hell) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker.JPG)
The sticker has all the holes pre-cut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker_precut.JPG)
bonus pics
MVS Catridges (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus1.JPG)
PCBs (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus2.JPG)
For those confused about the Korean stick feeling, heres a compilation of posts of mine from TZ & SRK:
(note: TZ est le forum mondial de tekken, donc une référence, où aussi bien les japonnais que les coréens y post, autant que des Américains, ou des Européens. SRK pour Shoryuken, un forum assez connu je pense)
The best buttons to use are the ones made by Crown specifically for use on their cabs. They cost about 50 cents each, all have black rims, and the colors that I always see are red, blue, and yellow. These are snap-ons that mounts onto 11mm thick panels, the button hole is 28mm in diameter, and the buttons have flat top with rounded edges. The best korean buttons around for sure. There's a screw-on (nuts and bolts) type that's not as good as the Crown snap-ons performance wise, just acceptable quality.
In terms of stick construction, there are some Crown sticks that press the microswitches directly with a square plastic at the end of the metal shaft, like competition. I just need a camera with me tomorrow to just show all these.
The hole for the stick is either 36mm or 37mm in diameter, and the panel for the stick could be up to 15mm thick. The metal plate on which the stick gets screwed, is 81.5mm x 65.5mm
Moi j'ai trois joysticks coréens: Le fanta noir qu'il y'a de base sur le saulabi, le même mais en vert comme ceux de kenj (ca fait plus borne d'arcade je trouve) et un Crown avec un "square actuator" de couleur pourpre. Mais j'aime pas trop...
\STICKS \
1.Fanta Stick (MyungShin)
These make up for probably 90% of sticks used in korean arcades. These are good sticks, and since it's completely round and has no corners on rotation, it shouldn't be hard to adapt to. The recent batches of Fantas have been coming out with light blue microswitches (by Deco), instead of the usual brown/black (brown and black are exactly the same, made by LG/=Gersung). After some on spot testing, I found these Deco switches to be a horrible match for Fanta sticks, since hitting corners right was so much harder than the brown switches. I'll just grab the ones with LG microswitches.
pics (took with a used one I had laying around)
Fanta profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_profile.JPG)
Fanta bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_bottom.JPG)
Fanta bottom close-up (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/fanta_microswitch.JPG)
Fanta knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_knob.JPG)
Fanta avalable colors (red and green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_fanta_colors.JPG)
LG microswitch side 1 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG1.JPG)
LG microswitch side 2 (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_LG2.JPG)
2.Crown square actuator
This stick was new to me, but from on-site testing, this one had light resistence and it found corners very good. I haven't played on it yet. I gotta play on it tomorrow then. I'm putting so much time into this thing...
pics
Crown square profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_profile.JPG)
Crown square bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_bottom.JPG)
Crown square knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_square_knob.JPG)
Deco microswitch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/microswitch_Deco.JPG)
3.Crown round actuator
This one used to be pretty stiff with WONWOO microswitches in the past, but ever since they changed to Deco microswitches, they seem to be light enough. Seems to get corner inputs alright. This stick is NOT popular in the arcades though. I still got a sample for ya'll.
pics
Crown round profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_profile.JPG)
Crown round bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_bottom2.JPG)
Crown round knob (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_knob.JPG)
Crown round microswitch (prolly no longer in production with this microswitch) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/stick_crown_round_switch2.JPG)
Here's a size comparison of different sticks
click (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/sticks_size_comp.JPG)
If you want a shaft with a color other than red or green, it probably won't happen. Although I could try to find some real old cabinet with sticks that have orange/black shaft in them and try to swap the shaft with the new one IF they match, you'll have to convince me pretty good to go into that trouble. ;)
pics of some old ass cabs
Cab1 - orange (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/orange.JPG)
Cab2 - black (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/black.JPG)
\BUTTONS\
1.Crown Snap-on
I like these buttons a lot. These snap onto the Crown cabinets, and the the panel it mounts to has to be 11mm, and the hole is 28mm in diameter. Flat top. The pictures explain it all.
pics
Crown snap-on buttons (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap.JPG)
Crown snap-on bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_bottom.JPG)
Crown snap-on profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_profile.JPG)
Crown snap-on switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_switch.JPG)
Crown snap-on colors (RED/BLUE/YELLOW) I've seen 1 black one my whole life (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_snap_colors.JPG)
2.Crown Snap-on/Screw-on
These can be snap-ons as well as screw-ons. The button quality is just as good as the snap on. I think it snaps to 2 different thicknesses, if you look closely at the profile view. This would work for mounting directly on the plexi as well as any wood. Flat top.
pics
Crown screw-/snap profile (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_profile.JPG)
Crown screw/snap colors (RED/YELLOW/GREEN) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_colors.JPG)
Crown screw/snap bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_crown_screw_bottom.JPG)
3.Crown Illuminating Buttons
These buttons are just for kicks. It uses a Deco microswitch for the input and 12v for the bulb. Flat top. These light up when you press them. Look
pics
Crown illumin button bottom (hollow) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bottom.JPG)
Crown illumin bulb+switch (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_bulbswitch.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb.JPG)
Crown illumin assembled /w nut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_assemb1.JPG)
avaliable colors (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/button_lumin_colors.JPG)
3.Small Screw-On Buttons
These are tipical start-button-size buttons using switches. 24mm for the hole, I think. Convex top
pics
Small button colors (YELLOW/BLUE/ nasty green) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_buttons.JPG)
Small button bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/small_button_bottom.JPG)
\OTHER INFO\
Here are some extra pics for miscelaneous info.
Crown 203 Cabinet panel top (this is my latest stick project) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_top.JPG)
Crown 203 custom stick bottom (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/customstick_bottom.JPG)
You need a black panel like this to make it (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic.JPG)
It's got a comfortable angle (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_angle.JPG)
This is where those Crown-specific snap-ons go (bottom view) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_buttonhole.JPG)
The cradle for the stick (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_plastic_stickhole.JPG)
Put a sticker, like this one, on top (I wish they had the Tekken5 sticker, that'd be dope as hell) (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker.JPG)
The sticker has all the holes pre-cut (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/panel_sticker_precut.JPG)
bonus pics
MVS Catridges (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus1.JPG)
PCBs (http://laugh25.com.ne.kr/bonus2.JPG)
For those confused about the Korean stick feeling, heres a compilation of posts of mine from TZ & SRK:
(note: TZ est le forum mondial de tekken, donc une référence, où aussi bien les japonnais que les coréens y post, autant que des Américains, ou des Européens. SRK pour Shoryuken, un forum assez connu je pense)
The best buttons to use are the ones made by Crown specifically for use on their cabs. They cost about 50 cents each, all have black rims, and the colors that I always see are red, blue, and yellow. These are snap-ons that mounts onto 11mm thick panels, the button hole is 28mm in diameter, and the buttons have flat top with rounded edges. The best korean buttons around for sure. There's a screw-on (nuts and bolts) type that's not as good as the Crown snap-ons performance wise, just acceptable quality.
In terms of stick construction, there are some Crown sticks that press the microswitches directly with a square plastic at the end of the metal shaft, like competition. I just need a camera with me tomorrow to just show all these.
The hole for the stick is either 36mm or 37mm in diameter, and the panel for the stick could be up to 15mm thick. The metal plate on which the stick gets screwed, is 81.5mm x 65.5mm
Moi j'ai trois joysticks coréens: Le fanta noir qu'il y'a de base sur le saulabi, le même mais en vert comme ceux de kenj (ca fait plus borne d'arcade je trouve) et un Crown avec un "square actuator" de couleur pourpre. Mais j'aime pas trop...
- melkus92i
- Grand Master Flash
- Messages : 277
- Enregistré le : 29 juil. 2004 à 05h20
- Localisation : Boulogne 92100 BO
Je cherche desperement des autocollant pour stick mais on dirai que sa se vend pas ou alors j'en trouve pas
Ici on voie des sticks coustomiser :
http://www.byrdo.org/
Savez vous si sa s'achete se genre d'autocollant pour stick ? Si oui où saaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Ici on voie des sticks coustomiser :
http://www.byrdo.org/
Savez vous si sa s'achete se genre d'autocollant pour stick ? Si oui où saaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^





